65: The body heals itself - a conversation on chiropractic philosophy with Dr Lynn Carey

Rosie (00:00)

Welcome to episode 65 of the podcast. Can you believe we're at 65? This is wild to me. It's been a learning curve increasing to two episodes a week and also a learning curve in terms of figuring out the type of guests I want on and the content to focus on. So you might notice I'm exploring a little bit with the type of episodes. Bear with me.

I think I'm honing in, but send me feedback. Go to the pursuit of freedom.com.au hit on the microphone. Send me a message. And also please make sure you leave a rating and review.

Share an episode with somebody. That's the easiest way you could support the show and If you think it's worth it Maybe consider leaving a tip next time you choose to spend some money on a little luxury Okay Let's roll the episode but before I do that just a heads up This is a conversation that includes

topics or opinions that some people won't agree with and some of them I don't agree with. But I'm putting it out there because it's important to have respectful, productive conversations. So if you're not someone with an open mind, skip this episode. But I don't think there'd be many of you like that because this podcast is all about thinking differently. And I can't wait for you to hear from our guest, Dr. Lynn Carey. It's going to be great.

Rosie (02:22)

Welcome back to the Pursuit of Freedom podcast. Joining us today is the amazing Dr. Lynn Carey. Lynn went through two spinal surgeries when she was a teenager and experienced immense pain and sickness as a result of this. But things changed when she discovered chiropractic.

and embraced the concept that the body heals itself. There's more to it, which we will dive into. But Dr. Carey ran her own Chiropractor's practice for 18 years. And today she spends her time homeschooling her teenage son and empowering others to create their desired life of health, wealth, and self-expression. Lynn, thank you so much for joining me today.

Dr. Lynn Carey (03:07)

It's an honor to be here. Thank you for having me, Rosie.

Rosie (03:10)

Of course. Now I always like to start these episodes learning a bit more about my guest stories. So take us back to when you were a kid. What were you like? What was life like? Let's meet little girl Lynn.

Dr. Lynn Carey (03:27)

So my parents were actually married 20 years before I ever came along. My mom didn't think she could have anything. But when I came along, I don't know. I don't know if the joy ran out in the sense that I just saw my family working all the time. And they're still spoke like there wasn't enough, life is hard. And I didn't see much joy or happiness around. So I really questioned like, there's gotta be more to life. And I hated school.

Rosie (03:33)

Wow.

Hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (03:56)

Even though I did well, I did what I was told, studied, got my A's, know, stressed out, worried about all that kind of stuff. I didn't feel like I related, even though, I mean, I had friends, I was popular, you know, I felt that way, but it felt like a facade. I didn't feel like could really relate to other people because I thought I just was looking for more.

Rosie (04:03)

Hmm.

Hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (04:19)

When I was 12, my father died of cancer. And I just remember being angry that he left me here. I thought, well, I was raised Catholic. So they talked about heaven, that heaven is this utopia. And I'm like, well, he went there. And I think he left me in hell on earth. Why, you know? So I always felt like, you know, and that's kind of the basis of what my...

Rosie (04:23)

Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (04:44)

diagnosis was with scoliosis. I learned later that one of the emotional causes is your feel like you're being pulled in two directions. So I had that a lot, you know, in the sense that there had to be more to life, even though nobody had answers for me. So I was pulled into that. And then also having my dad die had one parent in heaven, one parent on earth. I felt pulled in two directions. and I had the S shaped scoliosis, which, you know, it's going in two different directions. And that was the position of

Rosie (04:47)

right

you

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (05:13)

you know, when I eventually ended up having them, parenting rod surgery where they put rods in my spine because I just followed what the medical world said. So.

Rosie (05:22)

Hmm. So there would have been, you know, a lot of anger and all sorts of big feelings then losing your dad and dealing with all this stuff. Now you mentioned the procedure you had on your spine.

Can you tell us a bit more about that? Because I get the impression your thoughts on that today are probably quite different to what your thoughts were back then.

Dr. Lynn Carey (05:44)

Well, can I tell you when I got to chiropractic school, that was actually one of the surgeries they showed in chiropractic school. In the beginning, they were like, look what they do to people. Look how horrible this is. And they had the surgery on TV and I'm like, my God. Like I couldn't even watch it. I felt like I was going to throw up. know, like, and then when people found out that I had that surgery, I was like,

Rosie (05:53)

Wow.

Wow. Wow.

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (06:09)

specimen. Everybody wanted to feel my spine. my god. my god. You know, I was like the walking weirdo with the, the, you know, so it was, but it was such an amazing journey to heal from in that experience, you know, in chiropractic school. So was very powerful.

Rosie (06:12)

my god.

yeah.

you

Right.

Hmm. So can you tell us why did you get the surgery? Obviously you had scoliosis, but what was the advice at the time?

Dr. Lynn Carey (06:39)

Well, I had actually found the bump in my back. It just felt like a bump in my back. I didn't have pain. was 14, going into, it was probably a year after my dad died. was going into high school. You're going through all those changes anyway. And I just remember one of my waistlines. If I looked at myself in the mirror, it was straight. I didn't have a curve on the one side. And then I felt the bump in my back and I was like, my God. And I said something to my mom and she just.

Rosie (06:47)

Okay.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (07:09)

panicked and we went to the doctor, the pediatrician, and he said, you have to go to North Pedest. And we had one of the top pediatric hospitals in the world in my state, I don't look at it too reverently now, but yeah, you know, they wanted to brace. Well, they did. They braced me. And I don't know if you've ever seen a scoliosis brace. It's as hard as a brick wall.

Rosie (07:25)

dear.

No.

Dr. Lynn Carey (07:36)

It's hard plastic and it goes from your armpit to the top of your hips and it wraps around you. And they wanted me to wear this thing for 23 out of 24 hours a day. Take it off one hour a day to shower and exercise. And I thought, okay, I need other opinions. But the problem is my other opinions were only orthopedic doctors. So they all had the same mindset. But one doctor said 12 hours a day is enough. I was better with that.

Rosie (07:40)

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (08:04)

but he was a surgeon and he said, you're a good candidate for the surgery. goes, think it was a label severe, that's the curve. So he said you would be a good candidate. And all I heard was I didn't have to wear that brace, you know, after, because I was going to wear the brace at 14. I mean, not to be too much information, but this is just biological. They can tell how much growth a girl has to do. I didn't have my period yet.

Rosie (08:10)

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (08:31)

So I probably would have been wearing that for the next five years. It wasn't like I was matured. And the crazy thing is he told me once I had the surgery, it will bring on your period. And I thought, and I look back at that and I'm like, how is so invasive in the body that we think that's normal? mean, in today's day and age, they're still doing that surgery to people. And I just think it's so barbaric. But that's just another example of how the medical world is so far removed.

Rosie (08:46)

Mmm. Mmm!

Dr. Lynn Carey (08:59)

from natural healing and what the body does. Like they do honor it first, you know, we really should have the medical world as emergency care medicine and should be second or third try, know, second or third resort after trying other things, not first resort because it's just so drastic. I was not exposed to any alternative mindset. My family was.

Rosie (09:00)

Mmm.

Mm-mm.

course not. And you were a teenager. You didn't want to wear this horrible brace, so surgery probably sounded amazing.

Dr. Lynn Carey (09:25)

I mean, the brace would cut, I would have cuts under my armpits. You'd sweat in it. And you know, you just, at that age, you feel weird wearing a brace. It's under your clothes, but you look weird. You know what I mean? You could still tell that you got something. It was just awful.

Rosie (09:30)

Mmm.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, gosh. So let's jump forward a bit to when you went to chiropractic school. First question is how on earth did that happen? What made you choose that and what changed for you?

Dr. Lynn Carey (10:00)

You know, after the surgery, they ended up taking the Harrington rods out about a year and a half later. And that was just a miracle because I didn't want more surgery and that wasn't in the cards. I think I was already having pain and I remember him saying, will you have a skinny frame? You might feel the rods. Maybe it's better if they come out. And I was like, great, more surgery. I didn't want more surgery and I'm so grateful they took them out. So, but I was just, I

Rosie (10:01)

Mmm.

Okay.

Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (10:30)

sciatic pain, my immune system was shot, I had to get eyeglasses, I had the chicken pox, like a strep throat all the time. I was just a wreck and I was never like that before. I was never physically sick. And the depression was getting worse. So I finished high school. My mom kept telling me to be successful, you have to go to college. But when I got to college at University of Delaware, it just wasn't what I thought. And I felt like I was having more of a mental breakdown. I couldn't find my purpose.

Rosie (10:33)

Mm-hmm.

Wow.

Mm-hmm.

you

Dr. Lynn Carey (10:59)

I didn't want to be there. It was worse than high school for me. the pain, so the pain, the depression was worse, the pain was worse. It all ties together, right? You know, and you're, the emotional component is totally connected to the physical. So my boyfriend at the time, his father was going to a chiropractor and he was trying to find his major in college too. And he listened to the chiropractor and he brought home a pamphlet and he said,

Rosie (11:02)

Wow.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (11:28)

we should look at this. And I read the pamphlet and it just said, the power that made the body heals the body. And I was just like, why hasn't anyone said this to me? Like it was like the first time in my life that I heard truth. I couldn't have verbalized that at the time, but it was like, it resonated. I gave myself like that semester to kind of, it was my second year of college, that semester to kind of just look into it. That wasn't a legit profession because my mom was right away.

Rosie (11:34)

Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (11:55)

they're quacks, you don't wanna do that. I'm like, no, I think there's something to this, you know? And I just went, I didn't even get adjusted. I just went to chiropractic school on the philosophy, started getting adjusted there and it literally changed my life. It saved my life in so many ways because I found purpose, I found truth, opened the doors to not only me learning to heal myself, but spirituality and...

Rosie (11:56)

Yeah.

hell.

Mmm.

Right.

Dr. Lynn Carey (12:20)

and learning all the ways to live outside of this mainstream matrix that they tell us is normal, that I think is causing so many people depression and unhappiness.

Rosie (12:30)

You know, hearing you talk, I'm quite surprised that chiropractic school had this, I guess you'd call it the philosophical or spiritual component. I very much assumed it also was clinical. So can you share with us some of what you learnt there?

Dr. Lynn Carey (12:49)

You know, I believe our profession is very split because I do believe that the bureaucracy, the medical world, all the crap has infiltrated chiropractic as well. For us to become doctors and licensed, we had to kind of sell ourselves a little bit and we have to pass all these boards. So I had to learn what the medical world learned, which is fine. It even proves to more that they don't understand health and healing. Cause when I really looked into it, I was like, all they do,

Rosie (13:00)

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (13:16)

is wanna know what symptoms you have so they can label it, so they can drug it or cut it out. They don't talk about what we learned. mean, and okay, and also there's a lot of chiropractic schools that do not have the philosophy of chiropractic because they sold themselves. I have met colleagues who have no idea what I'm talking about when I talk about life force, innate intelligence. So my school was amazing in that it had the philosophy and that's what really spoke to me.

because I knew what I'd been through in the medical world and they could not help me. Because every time I kept going back with whatever symptom I had, they didn't have an answer for me. It was either an antibiotic or a painkiller, physical therapy, and none of that worked. So this philosophy, I mean, the founder of our school used to have philosophy meetings once a week and where he'd speak to the whole group of school, the whole group of student body. And he would say, he would drop his car keys, right?

And he'd be like, what happens every time you drop your car keys? They fall to the ground. It's the law of gravity. Just like the law of gravity, your body heals itself every time. It's always making itself new. You have to remove the interference so that it can heal itself. You adjust the spine, get out of the way, let the body heal itself. You're not trying to fix anything. You're not trying, because you don't know better than the body. Because we recognize that there is an inner wisdom and we called it innate intelligence, just like there's a universal intelligence that runs the world, right?

that this moon comes up, the stars, the sun, all these things, right? The oceans, like you think about the wind, the air, like we're not controlling all that. Well, there's that same wisdom, right? There's that same wisdom in your body, innate intelligence that all your organs are working as you're, as we're sitting here talking. Can you imagine if we had to consciously control that and talk? It would happen. Like there's millions of functions going on. So why do we ignore that when we get so-called sick and symptomatic?

Rosie (14:49)

Yeah, yeah.

you

Dr. Lynn Carey (15:09)

How about looking at, what's the body trying to tell you? What are the symptoms trying to do? So we honor the natural process of the body before we pop a pill. you could get adjusted, but we're also gonna let it run its course. Because the more you your immune system, do what it has to do without interference, without the drugs, without interfering with it. It gets stronger. Your symptoms get less drastic the next time. But see, no one is taught that to be okay with the symptoms.

Rosie (15:12)

you

Right.

No.

Dr. Lynn Carey (15:39)

Right? Let the fever run its course because it's killing the body. Every time you're suppressing it, it's killing off cancer cells. It's burning off things that aren't good for the body. So every time you take an Advil or Tylenol to bring down the fever before the body's done, you're letting all that debris sit in there. So it's like you think about the body in a whole different way, right? And that was part of getting adjusted. It was changing the mindset, understanding what the body does and that philosophy.

everything because once people are empowered that your body knows what it's doing and to trust that that's where the healing now we're not afraid that's I remember specifically not being afraid anymore and that's I really believe was the turning point for me because it it took a while I mean I didn't just get adjusted one way but also was it a good place that

Rosie (16:14)

Mmm.

Right?

Hmm? Hmm!

Dr. Lynn Carey (16:30)

I got nothing to lose. I just thought was gonna have to live in pain the rest of my life. So I was very open to this new way of looking at the body. made sense, know, and getting the body work. It was just a magical combination and also having other like-minded people around me to support me. Cause I watched so many people, right? Like, especially in my practice, I would see, well, my mom was freaking out that I'm feeling this way. Go to the doctor, go get a drug.

Rosie (16:34)

Mm-hmm.

Hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (17:00)

You know, so a lot of people don't have the people around them to support them because they're in fear, which makes the sickness worse. You see, it's like a... So I really need a really good combination to get to this place.

Rosie (17:06)

Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah, and on that fear point, why do you think we're all so scared? Where does that come from?

Dr. Lynn Carey (17:24)

There's a lot of propaganda. God, how you talk about propaganda for after especially these four years of what happened, like what I've even uncovered deeper. guess I never thought it was a deliberate, and we don't have to go there. I'll curb it there wherever you want to go, but I never thought it was a deliberate dumbing down of society. really thought, like even when I got into practice, I thought I was ignorance on fire. I really just wanted to get out and change the world.

Rosie (17:53)

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (17:53)

I knew I healed myself, I knew the power was within people. I knew they were still having unnecessary surgeries, too much antibiotics, like too much interference. And I just wanted to tell people. And I realized a lot of people didn't wanna hear what I had to say. And it shocked me. So I thought, people have to get to their natural evolution themselves, right? They have to ask, they have to want it. You can't force it on people. All you can do is be an example for people. But now I'm realizing the media,

big pharmacy, the government, they've manipulated everything for control. like pharmacies are what, big pharma is what controls our healthcare system. It's not the doctors. They're in a system and they're dictating by how sick you can be and how many pills they're gonna sell you, how many pills you're gonna be on for life. I look at the nursing homes that are filled up. That's not normal. We're not supposed to be aged and sick.

Rosie (18:51)

Mm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (18:52)

something we're creating here, it's a reprogramming of the mind, but people have to want it. I believe now is the time though, that humanity is waking up to their power. I think we're raising our consciousness here. And I'm like, I came for this time now. I really believe that. And that's why I'm really passionate about sharing my message. Cause people just need other examples. You know, you need an example.

Rosie (19:02)

Hmmmm

Right, right.

Dr. Lynn Carey (19:17)

Because we don't have enough stories of healing and how it works. We have stories of fear and I mean, and you see all the what runs the world, like the pharmacy and their ads and all the stuff that's on there. mean, they have a drug for everything. You got to love it. I mean, they have all the people on antidepressants that may cause suicide. I mean, if you ever hear the like symptoms or the side effects, it doesn't even make sense. But yet they can still put that on TV and sell that many. This is how far gone we are.

Rosie (19:38)

It's scary,

Hmm. Hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (19:47)

that we think that's normal, you know? And I'm just, you know, I've chosen to live a different, I walked away from the medical world 28 years ago at this point. I raised my son outside of the medical system. There's another way. And I just wanna be an example and share people what I know. It's all like, all you can do.

Rosie (20:06)

Mm. And then I guess the choice is theirs. Open their eyes. They get to see it. Cause we don't know what we don't know.

Dr. Lynn Carey (20:09)

It's the choice.

Right.

Rosie (20:15)

What I'd love to learn is can you kind of walk us through an example? If I was to come into your chiropractic practice, would it be like? I've never been to a chiropractor anyway, but what would it be like walking into your practice?

Dr. Lynn Carey (20:28)

Well, I made the environment more conducive. got soft lighting, relaxing music. I never took any notes. I just would adjust the spine. I mean, I would fill out a little card for you if you wanted to keep the dates that you were here. I would give a receipt if you wanted to submit it to the insurance, but I kept it very reasonably priced. I only did cash because I didn't want to do insurance. didn't

Rosie (20:44)

Run.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (20:54)

believe what they were doing. I didn't want them dictating how I practiced because they're not in alignment at all with the wellness philosophy of chiropractic. They want me to treat and fix something. That's not how it works. Kids can get adjusted. It's just for wellness. All it is is just to clear the spine so that the brain and body can communicate better because that's how the life force is flowing through. And I would just talk to people. I'm like, you know.

Rosie (20:58)

Right.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (21:20)

I mean, I started when I first opened my practice, I put an x-ray machine in and then I couldn't x-ray anymore. Like I went very, within a year I sold my x-ray machine. started doing more energy work even the energy of the body and what was going on, it just overtook me. know, like, I'm like, this is so much bigger than us. It's so much bigger than us, what we think. And I've never been a very scientific person because I thought,

Rosie (21:24)

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (21:46)

when I would learn about the scientific stuff or the background behind it. I know some people like that, but to me it never made sense because I'm like, it's a guessing game. Even the scientists don't know and it's still subjective. I don't care how objective they say they're being. It's usually leaning towards human error and we don't know. We need to rationalize things. It was bigger than me. Like I knew I have pieces of my spine missing because of my surgery and I'm out of paint. It doesn't even make sense.

Rosie (21:56)

Mmm.

Right, yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (22:14)

kind of have to surrender to miracles are normal. We can't, you know, justify or logically explain everything. It's just the way my brain works. So I would just do lighter and lighter touch with people. I just wanted them to share what they felt. I wanted to say, look, anything can heal. You'll have to be afraid of the pain. I've been through the worst of it. So I guess I could say that confidently. Sometimes it gets worse before it gets better.

Rosie (22:18)

Mmmmm

Dr. Lynn Carey (22:40)

And I also wanted to connect the dots with that. I'm like, are you happy in your life? Like what's going on in your life? Are you more stressed out than usual? And a lot of people would say no, but they would prescribe their day. And I was stressed out listening to it. So we have normalized high stress, you know? And the only way sometimes people will stop and make a change in their life is if their body breaks down. So usually I try to connect that for people.

Rosie (22:51)

Wow

Dr. Lynn Carey (23:06)

Something's not right whether it's the relationships family the job you hate Money problems. I don't know not living your purpose not really living the way you feel free and fulfilled that's part of well-being that's what we came here for and You know when you're living like that your life force whatever life force is running through you is and it's hundred percent Miracles happen at that place

Rosie (23:06)

All

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (23:33)

But when you're trying to be safe and secure and live in this matrix box that you should have this, this and this, this is they'll have midlife crisis is because that's not happening. That's not what we're here for. And that's where the disease starts to come in. So I really would try to connect people with that. would recommend books. You know, I would put out different information in my office. would put a different inspirational quote on the board every week because I'm just, people needed to change their mindset.

Rosie (23:41)

Mm-mm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (24:01)

and I didn't want to fill them with fear. There's no reason that we have enough fear. No reason to go to fear. We need to go to the empowerment.

Rosie (24:05)

you

Yeah, I love that. Because so often in society, we do go to fear. And all the propaganda out there, it's fear driven, I would say, very little of it is from a place of empowerment.

Dr. Lynn Carey (24:25)

Absolutely.

Rosie (24:26)

So tell me, all of this is sounding amazing. So why did you end your chiropractic practice?

Dr. Lynn Carey (24:35)

Well, you know, I got in on at ignorance on fire. And as I realized, I didn't know anything about business or money or running a practice.

The more I learned in that respect, I came across a book called Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kunisaki. And it was just like when I discovered chiropractic, it forever changed the way I looked at health and healing and life. That book forever changed the way I looked at money because I realized we have to have cashflow, assets. was a whole different vocabulary that, know, it weren't taught in school. Most people don't understand it. So was like that alternative path, just like chiropractic was that alternative path.

Rosie (25:09)

No.

Dr. Lynn Carey (25:13)

And the more I saw people in my practice, I'm like, people need time and financial freedom to be really healthy because they're choosing healing modalities on what they can afford, what their insurance pays for, which usually isn't health, it's disease-based. If they want to buy organic, if they want to take time off, all this was affected by time and financial freedom in my mind, I saw that. And I thought that's such a key element to wellbeing, you know?

Rosie (25:36)

Hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (25:41)

and how you take care of your body and your healing and time. And just to be free, like we shouldn't be living in this rat race where we're busy all the time. I mean, even how we keep kids in school all day and then busy with activities after school where they have a side job. Like I think about it, it's exhausting. Like that's what was part of my sickness. I had no time to rest. We rested on Sunday. It wasn't enough for me. And then my mom even made me get up early on Sunday and go to church. Like I wanted to shoot myself. It was ridiculous. But I see we're in, like nobody can be still.

Rosie (26:04)

Hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (26:11)

you know, and just chill. Why are we busy all the time? It's this shortage of time. It's the shortage of money. It's the shortage of, it's not enough. Find it in everywhere, right? So as I expanded, I just saw this and I was always an entrepreneur at heart from my practice to I did rental properties to, and then I discovered network marketing. I, to me, it was like the end all be all. I thought, okay, this is a business in a box. If you choose a company like I did that it supports,

Rosie (26:12)

Mmm. Mmm.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (26:41)

health and wellbeing, whether it's nutrition and products that don't have chemicals, all those things were important to me. So I'm like, well, why not shop from your own store and build legacy wealth? you could do it alongside of what you're already doing in your life. So it's not like it has to be stressful. It can be something that you don't have to make drastic change, but you can learn to create healthy habits for yourself, financial freedom, because it starts in here. And it's all personal development.

Rosie (26:57)

you

Dr. Lynn Carey (27:08)

And I thought I really just fell in love with it. And I'm blessed because I feel like I found so many passions in life, know, with chiropractic. Chiropractic is my first love. So how could I walk away from my practice? I felt a lot of guilt. But after 18 years, it was just time for me to spread my wings and feel like, know, chiropractic, it's still a way of life for me. It's still who I am. But I don't have to be confined to a practice. I didn't get into it to fix people.

Rosie (27:15)

Hmm

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (27:34)

and I felt like people wanted me to fix them. I wanted people to do the inner work. And so I thought, now I can work with less people who actually want to do the inner work to create and empower themselves. That became more exciting to me. It's just been on too many levels of healing deeper. think even a lot of chiropractors, I've seen friends of mine who have, to me, they've compromised their principles because of money. They started taking insurance, running a regular, know, the practice became more medical-like.

Rosie (27:39)

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (28:04)

office-like because that's the way to support yourself. have school loans, office overhead. I get it. But I never could practice like you realize.

what mainstream has taught us. There's another, everything, even like family relationships. I look at it, I'm like, are you with people because it's a codependency? Are you keeping each other down or are you with each other because you're empowering each other to be all who you can be? I mean, I came from a family that's very codependent. They're not lifting each other up. Stay here with me, we all suffer together. You can't have more than me. know, old school Italian, they fight each other. It's crazy. And I just, you know, I-

Rosie (28:15)

Mmm.

Yeah.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (28:43)

It's like I just started looking at everything, relationships, money. Like, what are we doing here? People need to follow their dreams. They need to follow what inspires them every day, you know? And it's gonna look different for everybody. But I think there's basis, like, there is a blueprint of things that you can do that are easy, basic steps to get you out of the rat race so it's not so scary. And that's, I'm always finding truth. And I've always lived like that, so.

Rosie (29:06)

Mmm.

Yeah. Could you share with us some of those easy steps that people might be able to implement to get out of the rat race?

Dr. Lynn Carey (29:18)

I think one of the easiest thing is just Becoming aware of what you want like really you got to be truthful with yourself I a lot of people are afraid like you may hear someone say I don't know what I want or you know, Just think it's because I think it's too good to be true But my thing is it's in your heart you got to put it put a pen to paper because it's so it's a very creative process it's a very healing process and

Rosie (29:24)

Mmm, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (29:45)

If you can imagine it, I do believe it can come you don't have to go from A to Z. It's like, let's start acknowledging what you want. Don't try to figure out how. Acknowledge what you want. If you don't know, that's fine. Wait for inspiration to strike. Another place to start is like, just make lists of things that you appreciate in your life. Gratitude lists. Like that the sun came up today, that you feel good today, that, I don't know, you saw a puppy and it made you smile. Like little things.

Rosie (29:50)

Right, Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (30:13)

that it's the simple basic things. Start paying attention to the joys in life instead of your problem. That, me doing a gratitude list, totally, I believe was part of my shift into stop focusing on your problems, start focusing on your blessings, and you start to create more. You start, the solution to your problems is in the blessing. We have to reorient ourselves, you know, to, in that, that's a big thing, because I think it's human work. We always want to fix something.

Rosie (30:34)

Mmm.

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (30:43)

But we have to allow the answers in, because the answer isn't usually the same problem, or the same level as the problem. So that's something that you can start with, just acknowledging that. Right there, I just think it's a simple thing.

Rosie (30:56)

Mm, it very much sounds like we need to tune into ourselves and learn to listen. Do you think we're born with that skill? Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (31:05)

Yes.

Absolutely. And that's, you know, that's why I was so passionate about. Thank God. I'm grateful. I had such an amazing, my son just turned 18 this year and I feel so blessed that I have such an amazing relationship with him. But I was, I don't have it. I didn't have everything figured out. Believe me. Still going through my challenges right now. It's not that I'm not. I knew when he was born, I knew enough to, I had him at home. I did not vaccinate him. He was not circumcised.

Rosie (31:26)

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (31:36)

He was never interfered with, not only medically, but I never interfered with him. I never looked at him like I have to teach him everything. I was like, what's he gonna teach me? He's came from source. He's in his alignment. I don't wanna screw him up, you know? I wanna just learn from him. I wanna go with his flow. And he was always in his zone. And I was able to match that zone because a few years prior, I had already kind of a few...

Rosie (31:47)

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (32:03)

Within a few years of practice, before he was born, I went into a bliss state, just from doing the work on myself, just from doing these things that I talk about. And I was in that state for like 18 months. And I realized, we are God. We are here to create our heaven on earth. We are master creators. This is our natural vibration, this high blissed out vibe that we're so happy nothing matters. You know, that's the place I went to for like 18 months. And I realized I had my awakening.

I realized religions don't have the answer. The medical world doesn't have the answer, you know, all these things. We're always looking for the outside thing to fix the relationship, the partying, the next trip. And I'm like, we're just looking for that high within ourselves. And once you find it, it's like, okay, how do we stay in this honor, this place, stay in this zone and create from this? So I realized I'm like, he's going to come in to the world in that zone.

Rosie (32:45)

you

Dr. Lynn Carey (32:59)

I just need to get out of the way and let him. I always, what do you want? What's your inner voice tell you? What do you want? always think whatever made him happy, like his inspiration, let's follow your bliss. Let's do it. And he's very in tune with himself. And it's funny because I'll describe certain things about my childhood. He looks at me like I have three heads. He's like, I'm going to say, why you do that? Just don't do that. You tell me not to do it. I'm like, but I don't know. have the program.

Rosie (33:12)

Wow. Wow.

Dr. Lynn Carey (33:29)

They don't, you know what I mean? It's like I can't see it for myself, like I can't see it for him. So I could always hold the speed from him. And then I had to learn to do it for myself.

Rosie (33:33)

Right. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, okay. And I don't think a lot of people parent like that.

Dr. Lynn Carey (33:43)

many people, feel like, just, kids have my heart. Like they just have my heart. You know, maybe because I never felt seen or heard in the right way as a child. It's not that I knew my parents loved me. They did the best they could. I get all that. But no one had the emotion, you know, the emotions, what I was looking for. It's like what I found in my own journey. Nobody gave that to me. And I just look at kids like, come in so clear.

Rosie (33:48)

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (34:13)

until society messes us up because it tells us you can't have this, you can't do that, blah, blah, blah, throws us in the prison system they call school, and don't, which you don't learn anything. That's useful. It's so archaic. And then the whole medical world, my God, I mean, the vaccination schedule, kids are like, get 72 vaccines by the time they're 18. It's not normal. I don't even know how our bodies survive it.

nobody's paying attention to this stuff knew there had to be a better way and I I'm grateful that I was able to hold that space we don't have everything figured out either because There's a social aspect that kind of was missing for my son Especially I guess the last four years when things locked down and everything was kind of it was it's not really hard But you know You got to start somewhere right somebody has to start creating a new path

Rosie (34:51)

Mm. Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (35:00)

for us to go through because the old stuff's not working.

Rosie (35:03)

I think a big part of it is people need to learn to question things and think for themselves. We're so used to being spoon-fed. if I think about healthcare in particular, we're just taught that doctors are up on this pedestal and we believe what they say at face value without even doing the research for ourselves or even doing a logic check on it. And...

Wherever people stand on their beliefs with the medical profession and more holistic or natural approaches, I think all of us would benefit from questioning more things. What have we got to lose by asking more questions?

Dr. Lynn Carey (35:40)

You know, that's definitely something I would say to people in my practice. I'm like, please question everything your doctor says. Question everything. Question me. Do your research. Get all the answers you can possibly get and then sit with it. And what makes sense to you? Like what makes sense to you? What resonates? What jumps out at you? If it's a medical solution and you want to go down that path, do it. Because you have to follow where it resonates with you, where your belief systems are. You know? Like.

Rosie (35:46)

Mm-mm.

Mmm.

I'm so glad you said that because even though your beliefs aren't aligned with the medical system, it's important for people to do what feels aligned with them.

Dr. Lynn Carey (36:19)

It is. Here's the thing. I got to the place where I walked away from the medical world because they screwed me up so many times. You know? So it's like, how many times can I go there and it wasn't good? And also with me learning this other way that they weren't learning or they weren't doing. but that's what, you know, it's like, have to know that you know. You get to the place where you know who, but it's because I questioned and I applaud, you know, I kept researching different things.

Rosie (36:25)

Mm! Mm! Mm!

Yeah. Right.

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (36:46)

and looking at different things and applying it in my life. Does it feel good? Does it not feel good? And you get to the place where you know that you know it in anything. You try different things out until you find the way that fits for you.

Rosie (36:58)

And how do you think that impacts our health and healing when we're doing things that feel aligned?

Dr. Lynn Carey (37:04)

It's everything. feel like kind of practice is a metaphor for life because we're here to find our alignment, right? Our alignment, our alignment is we're aligning to the source within, which is your peace, your joy, your inspiration, your passion, the things that light you up. That is your God source within speaking to you. That's what you're here for. Every time you deny that, you're misaligned. You're going into dis-ease every time.

Rosie (37:11)

Yeah.

you

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (37:34)

And it's not that we don't learn from the contrast. You can stay there for a little bit. You can go into the fear. I think we need to feel all the emotions, but you can't live in the fear zone. You can't make that the normal. It's like go to the fear zone or the grief or the anger or whatever that is to transform it, to learn whatever it is that's out of alignment for you. See why are you, where's the beliefs that are holding you there? Transform them and get back to the bliss state.

Rosie (37:53)

Mmm.

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (38:02)

We're not supposed to live in fear. We're supposed to go back to bliss. That should be our normal vibration. I believe that's what's happening to humanity right now. I believe we're remembering our power.

Rosie (38:13)

Mmm.

I also think there's a lot of people out there who resist what we're talking about. They say, that's not realistic. Like this is how life is. It breaks my heart when I hear people talking like that. But why do you think there is this sort of knee-jerk resistance?

Dr. Lynn Carey (38:35)

I don't know if in another lifetime I was like that, because I don't have it this time around. I really sit there and think because I see how many people, even in my practice, my family members, people that didn't want to go where I was, you know, like didn't want to ask the things that I was asking or look at the solutions I was finding. Look at this. I don't want to look there. You know, like I don't know. You don't want to stay in your freedom and suffering.

Rosie (38:40)

Yeah.

Hmm.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (39:03)

So I'm like, okay, either I had other lifetimes where I did that, because that's just the path they need to explore as a soul right now. Cause I don't have that filter. I almost feel like maybe I need to have a little more safety and security, cause I didn't live there at all. I'm the person who will jump off the cliff and figure it out as I go. You know, like I'm like, I like that. Let me go. Just like I went to kind of private school. I had no idea. It's always worked out. Like I can't say, cause I've always done my best and I've always gave it my all. And that's part.

Rosie (39:20)

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (39:33)

created in a magical light for me. So that's why I say like, okay, you might not have all the answers to figure out your dreams, but the challenges that you face is the stuff that where your soul wants to explore and transform. That's where the magic is. So it doesn't have to look perfect. It just needs to be experienced. You know, that's where it is. And I don't understand, I really cannot understand why people do not want to wake up.

Rosie (39:51)

Mmm.

Yes.

Dr. Lynn Carey (40:03)

Or look at something else. I just don't I don't like I said, I don't have that chip in my body I'm gonna try to hold compassion for people if they don't want to know But I can't stick with them if they don't Like I can't out with you if you're going to sit there and talk to me about your problems every day and not do something to change it I Want to grow I want to learn I want to I want to explore I want to evolve so I just

Rosie (40:08)

Yeah, yeah.

It's difficult. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (40:32)

Yeah, I just don't, don't have an answer. If you figure it out, please let me know because I think about it a lot.

Rosie (40:37)

Yeah, I do too. And I, I think part of it is social conditioning. You know, we've been groomed to just, this is the way we do things and we become so shut off that we don't even know what our own beliefs are anymore. But I still wonder why we resist learning new things. I love asking questions and learning new things. I won't necessarily agree with it all, but I love having a good debate and learning other points of view.

Dr. Lynn Carey (40:47)

Thank

And

Rosie (41:07)

I think people are missing out, but I, I'm curious actually to hear your thoughts on this. It's something I've been exploring. Does it take hitting rock bottom for us to be willing to work on our mindset or consider other possibilities? Cause a lot of people I talked to on the podcast, they've been through some big shit, right? And it's often when they're

down there that there's this big transformation moment. So do people have to get there to be able to transform?

Dr. Lynn Carey (41:38)

I think yes and no. I've unfortunately had to have craziness happen rock bottom for me to get the awakening. And it's not even to say that I wasn't doing the work before I had to like lose

Rosie (41:40)

Hmm.

Right.

Dr. Lynn Carey (41:54)

But I needed the experience of that to get the understanding because sometimes I always call it this, there's like an invisible web that was holding me back that I couldn't understand all that programming is so normal. It's like become subconscious a little bit until you're faced with something that makes you face it. The belief, the thoughts, the fears, but I don't think it has to be, I do think,

Rosie (41:57)

Mmm.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (42:19)

We have created so much suffering that we have to go through. I don't believe all that suffering is so necessary. I think maybe that's what we're evolving out of. I do believe I suffered a lot in this lifetime. To me, I believe it's all part of the journey and it gave me what I needed to, but do I think it has to be about the suffering? No, I think we can evolve and learn without the suffering. Maybe that's what we're coming out of, but I know I've been through a lot and that's usually, unfortunately where I have my biggest aha moments when I was in the.

Rosie (42:23)

Mmm.

you

Yeah.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (42:47)

the pit, like you're in the worst part, you know.

Rosie (42:53)

yeah. Do you resent those experiences?

Dr. Lynn Carey (42:56)

No, I don't. for instance, like I look at now, in 18 years that I was in practice, I have never seen someone come in with x-rays of their spine, because they always want to show me everything. And I didn't care what their x-rays were, but I had to, you know, you want to honor somebody's story, you look at it. I have never seen a medical doctor know what they were talking about when they were looking at the spine, ever.

They don't get it. They don't get it at all.

Rosie (43:26)

you

Dr. Lynn Carey (43:26)

So what I had done was so barbaric, really, but would I change it? No, I wouldn't change it because I am so free with my health. Like I don't have, I hear people's thoughts about health and the way they look at their body and this crap they're going through with their body. I don't live there anymore. Like I am free. And that's because of the crap I went through with my spine, you know? Like it empowered me. So I'm grateful for it. can't, you can't, how do I change that?

Rosie (43:40)

Mm-mm.

Right.

Absolutely. Yeah.

And you wrote a book, didn't you? think it was released during the pandemic, was it? Was it 2020? Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (44:03)

I wrote it, you know, I wasn't done ever figuring everything out. I was still working on my business and financial freedom. But when we locked down, it really upset me because I did not believe what they were saying. I knew it wasn't right what was happening. And everybody was mad at me for speaking up. That was even crazier. I'm like, here we go again. I'm like, when I got into practice, nobody wanted to hear what I had to say. Now here we are. And people are not wanting to listen again. I don't understand.

Rosie (44:29)

No one's willing for an open dialogue. Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (44:32)

Right. So I just, the only thing positive I could think of at the time, I like to write, like I'm a journal or I always, I just started, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna write my story. I don't know what I wanna do with it yet, because I wasn't ready to, but I found, know, I just, I'm always ignorant, self-fired, I just figured it out how to self-publish. And I thought, you know, people need stories of how we heal. I have a powerful story, I healed myself. And I knew if people understood health like I did, 2020 would have never happened.

Rosie (44:44)

Yeah.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (45:02)

You couldn't have feared people into doing all those things. I knew that, and I still live by that almost five years later. So that's why I thought the most thing I could do was we need more stories of healing and empowerment. I'm just gonna write it and put it out there, and that's what I did.

Rosie (45:17)

Wow, just like that.

Dr. Lynn Carey (45:20)

like it.

Rosie (45:22)

And I love how you call it ignorance on fire. I love that. I think I'm going to start saying that.

Dr. Lynn Carey (45:26)

I'm still figuring things out as I go. But you know, that's part of the, that's life. think people think you get to a certain age and you're going to have it all figured out or accomplish all these things. I'm like, no, I'm going to keep trying new things. I want to keep going and evolving. Like that's death. know, living is you keep having interests and you keep doing things and you change yourself and you grow. So I just turned 50 this year. I feel like I'm just getting started.

Rosie (45:43)

Yes. Right.

Yeah, and I think that's how everybody should feel. Why not give ourselves permission to live?

Dr. Lynn Carey (46:00)

Agreed. I I feel... Yeah, I feel better physically now than I did when I was 19 years old. I was like 90 when I was 19. I was such a mess. So now I'm like, you can't hold... Nothing's gonna hold me back now. Let's go.

Rosie (46:11)

Mmm.

This could be controversial because I have no idea where this is going to go. But what are your thoughts on...

I don't even know how to phrase I guess, traditional medicine and people who do see benefit from that. Is there a place for that or do you think that's part of the problem as well?

Dr. Lynn Carey (46:37)

think you should do whatever works for you, that's fine. But you really have to be honest with yourself. Like, do you want to live in a diseased, fearful state where you need a pill to survive the rest of your life? I think you could take things temporarily, but I think you need to look at not only your habits of around healing and...

I'm not very strict when it comes to like diet, nutrition, I think we should get to a place where I live, which is you're following your inner guidance of what you feel like you need to eat. I definitely eat clean and probably the most people. I stop when I'm full. I don't eat as much as the average person. People who are overeating are not in tune with themselves, you know? try to get the chemicals out of my food and my products and things like that as just my normal.

Rosie (47:07)

Yeah.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (47:30)

You know, I try to buy things that are kooky, but I really am also mindful and I enjoy my food when I eat. I, you know, like I don't, I'm not gonna just have a cup of coffee to have a cup of coffee cause it, I need the energy of it. Cause it doesn't, can go to, I can have a cup of coffee and go right to sleep. I want to have a cup of coffee because I can sit in the moment and have a Zen moment. Like I'm gonna chill for a moment. Like that's my time. You know what I mean? There's a different. So I believe people need to get into that zone.

Rosie (47:31)

Yeah, yeah.

Yes.

Mm.

Yeah.

Mmm.

Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (47:59)

I think that there's an important aspect of that, but more so, what's the emotions gone on in your life that's causing this dis-ease? There's an emotional cause, there's a mental cause. A lot of times people create the disease because they don't wanna face the relationship issues. They don't know how to get out of their job. But when you're sick, you got a big label disease on you, you're gonna get the attention from your family, you're gonna get time off from your job, but do you wanna go that way? I mean, you gotta be really honest.

Rosie (48:16)

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (48:28)

You really have to be careful too how you say that to somebody if they're asking you. Like, and that was the stuff I was coming up with as a chiropractor because I wanted to call people out on it. And I, with compassion, but I need to sit there and play the game with them. I'm so sorry you got the ideas for that. I'm like, come on, like there's bigger, I don't, I don't feel like that. Like I have to a facade on if you want me to do that, you know?

Rosie (48:37)

Mm.

Right, right.

There's more to it.

Mm. Mm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (48:56)

care what label you call it. It doesn't freak me out. That's why I'm like, don't go to the doctor and get a big, they're just gonna give you a label. that's, we create by auto suggestion. Do you what I'm saying? So they're gonna give you that label. That might be a blip in the radar, whatever your test result is, that might not be there in a couple weeks. But now they told you, you have this. Now your body's creating it. Because you have so much fear around that disease. That's all part of it. So that's like,

Rosie (49:13)

Right.

Mmm.

Yeah.

Dr. Lynn Carey (49:26)

That is like a touchy, that's a touchy subject, right?

Rosie (49:30)

It is a touchy subject.

Dr. Lynn Carey (49:31)

I mean, somebody has to really want to hear that.

Rosie (49:36)

Mmm. Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (49:37)

So I do believe in a lot of things with wrapped around disease that it's socially acceptable. That's where you get compassion from the mainstream crowd, the normies with the job, the family's life, the whole thing. It's just something that people have to be honest with themselves. I do believe a disease label is your, it doesn't have to be to me, it's not a death sentence. It's a time to awaken.

Rosie (49:45)

Yeah.

Yeah, definitely.

Mmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (50:06)

Cause that, you know, if you're hitting your bottom with that, you can awaken from that. Like it could be your greatest gift. That's what I want people to find.

Rosie (50:16)

Mm-hmm. Mm. This has really got me thinking. So thank you for that. There's just, there's so much to this. And touching on what you were saying about labels, I think part of the danger there is these labels become our identity.

Dr. Lynn Carey (50:32)

Yes, exactly.

Rosie (50:34)

Anyway, I want to end on a question that I can't wait to hear your answer to. I ask it to every single guest and that is, what does freedom mean to you?

Dr. Lynn Carey (50:45)

God, that just gave me Chills, because I'm a really big component and I feel like I've been speaking a lot on freedom right now. I'm all about health freedom, freedom to be your own best doctor, to say no to other people who are telling you something different, because you know. Freedom to own your body and your health, right? Because you're not living in fear of what somebody else can tell you. They can't come in and rock your world. Like I have that, I would love to offer that to everybody.

Rosie (50:46)

Ha ha!

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (51:14)

but they have to get there on themselves, right? I'm about financial freedom, where you have money coming in, it covers everything you want to do to live comfortably. And you're not stressed about money anymore. Financial freedom, time freedom. And now, even relationship freedom. I've never been a big believer in marriage. I don't want the government religion dictating my relationship. Like, I want to be around people who empower me because we will be together.

Rosie (51:16)

Hmm

Mm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (51:43)

not because I'm obligated because it's my family or my spouse or I want to do it for free will, free choice every day because they empower me. And the last four years added, I never was into politics. I was never into the government stuff because every time I don't watch mainstream media, because every time I would look at it or even if I would try to understand government stuff, it never made sense to me. I could tell the people, they were just spinning in circles, never solving any problems.

Rosie (51:51)

Mm-hmm.

Mm. Mm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (52:13)

The last four years, I really dug deep and I got to the root of like for America, we have a constitution that I'm learning that I can use as a daily citizen to support my natural rights. I can go into a court as my own person, not a corporation, you know, they're making us the straw man by putting capital letters on your name. And that's not what my country was founded on. So I'm learning now.

how to apply the constitution to get myself out of stuff. The taxes aren't constitutional. I'm learning the driver's license isn't constitutional. You know, I'm not there yet, but I'm figuring it out. I believe we need to be sovereign. And I think that's what's coming up right now, you know, for a lot of us, like we're questioning all these things. I walked away from the educational world. I didn't put my son in it. And I don't, you know, that's BS to me. The whole educational system's horrible. Our economic system is horrible.

Rosie (52:54)

Mmm.

Mm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (53:12)

You have to create your own economy. know, so freedom, I believe, is every aspect of your life, but the freedom to be yourself, you know, freedom to follow your dreams, to live in alignment with your God source within what makes you happy, true freedom. But I do believe, you know, when you're doing that, these little structures are going to come into question, you know, like if you're

Rosie (53:23)

Yes.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lynn Carey (53:42)

How you spend your day, who you're around, like, are they in alignment with your happiness? So I'm all about freedom. I've...

I'm gonna feel like I'm too much of a free spirit, you know? I'm learning to ground it here, to create, and my goal in my life is mastery of it. In this lifetime, I really wanna create my heaven on earth. I believe that's what I'm doing. And I believe that's what we all came for.

Rosie (54:08)

Wow. You're creating your heaven on earth. And don't we all deserve that, right? And it is very much a personal journey. Like I feel like we can have a frank and honest conversation here. And I will say like I am vaccinated and there's certain things that I wouldn't necessarily agree with you on, but I want to thank you for voicing.

Dr. Lynn Carey (54:13)

YAY

Rosie (54:33)

what feels aligned to you and getting me to question some things and really think about that. I think a lot of people shut down these conversations with people who might not have the same views as you. And I'm not into that. I think we need an open dialogue and your experience is so powerful and your wisdom and your advice. And I hope listeners walk away from this episode asking some more questions.

Dr. Lynn Carey (55:03)

Definitely, can I just say something on that? That is so beautiful that you said that. I think we could all have open dialogue and conversation if we were all, all of us more living in our natural alignment and not so much. We would be having these conversations and learning and evolving in such a beautiful way.

Rosie (55:16)

yes.

Mmm. This, yeah, there's too much hate.

Dr. Lynn Carey (55:30)

So I think that's because of all the fear stuff going on. And if it wasn't, that's why it's important for us to have these conversations, because I think this is going to shift humanity so that we can be joyous again, and we want to dialogue again, and we want to have it because we're sharing ideas. We learn from each other.

Rosie (55:37)

Yes.

Yes, yes. If I had the same beliefs today that I did a year ago or however long ago, that's not a good thing to me. I want my beliefs to be developing and changing and being challenged and asking those difficult questions. That's how I want to live. And I think if everybody can get there, life is going to be so much better. But for people who aren't there,

Dr. Lynn Carey (55:57)

Thanks.

Yes.

I agree.

Rosie (56:12)

start to acknowledge or just become aware of what you want. That's what Lyn said in this episode. And don't go, that's not realistic. Deep down, you do know what you want. It is there. Stop putting a lid on it, right? Listen to yourself. And I love how you put it, creating your heaven on earth. I don't even have words. It's just, I love it.

And I want to say thank you so much. have really, really enjoyed this conversation. People listening, you'll know I've been complaining every episode about the heat, but I'm going to do it again. It's 38 degrees Celsius, about 100 Fahrenheit, but the heat and discomfort has been so, so worth it. So Lynn, again, thank you.

I look forward to getting this episode out into the world because I know that people are going to get so, so much value from it.

Dr. Lynn Carey (57:08)

Thank you so much, Rosie. You're amazing. You created such an amazing place for us to have this conversation. So thank you.

Rosie (57:10)

Thank you.